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  My old congregation Auckland New Zealand

  by karter in

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  in 1991 we build a 250 seat hall and had 125 publishers so about 175 in attendance and filing fast.. just spoke to someone from my old congregation they now have 50 to 60 publishers and 100 in attendance on a good day.. very few pioneers.. seems this is happening everywhere.. karter..

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  Black Sheep

  I'm pleased to hear it and hope it's one my family is associated with.
  
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  Another marriage bites the dust ...

  by EdenOne in

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  2. experiences

  ... and this time it was mine.. mrs. eden decided to part ways and leave home, and so our 25 year long partnership is now dissolving.

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  just another colateral damage in a long list of colateral damages from being raised in the "truth".

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  Black Sheep

  Sorry to hear that EdenOne. I hope that at some time in the future you will be able to look back on this as a good thing.
  
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  Do any of the JWs go out door to door with a territory any more?

  by Spiral in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i actually had a neighbor ask me that the other day (she knows i'm an "ex" jw) and i didn't really know the answer.

  i know there's a bit of cart witnessing going on (small town) and a lot of driving around to return visits.. but are they actually doing territory, not-at-homes, all of that?

  the neighbor said that eight years ago, when she bought her house, the jws were by "all the time".

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  Black Sheep

  I've recently had a couple knock on the door of a neighbor I was visiting, so it's still happening around here. They don't do our street anything like as often as they used to even though imports have increased the size of the local congregation substantially.
  

  My wife is going 'witnessing' tomorrow. What that consists of I won't ask.

  If I have any good news, it's that the Mormons seem to a given up recruiting in our area.
  
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  non jehovah witness dinner

  by whatisthis12 in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  so almost two weeks ago, my boyfriend(who was disfellowshiped) went to the memorial.

  he hasn’t spoken to his parents, friends, or siblings for over a year because of it.

  the only person he keeps in contact with is his grandma, which is who he went along with.

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  Black Sheep

  One of the reasons I've been avoiding this type of forum is the self-appointed troll spotters.
  
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  non jehovah witness dinner

  by whatisthis12 in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  so almost two weeks ago, my boyfriend(who was disfellowshiped) went to the memorial.

  he hasn’t spoken to his parents, friends, or siblings for over a year because of it.

  the only person he keeps in contact with is his grandma, which is who he went along with.

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  Black Sheep

  Go to dinner. Ask questions. If they try to change the subject or rephrase your question into something you didn't really ask, don't let them get away with it, repeat the question without rephrasing it into something they might like better. The more they want to weasel their way out of answering your question, the more important it is that you get an honest answer from them.

  And look them in the eyes when you ask. Don't feel that they have the moral high ground because they belong to their 'one true religion' with promises of salvation and you are just a lowly non-believer who will be destroyed at BalmyGeddon if you don't join in the very near future.
  
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  On and off again JW girlfriend

  by Crzysin in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  hello everyone, i have an on and off again ex who is a jw.

  each time her family gets involved and she's gone again.

  i'm debating biting the bullet and doing the work to become baptized, so we can follow through with our engagement.

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  Black Sheep

  She is damaged goods.

  Until such time as she fully realises that she has been raised in a damaging high control cult, she is not marriagable material.

  Do yourself and your potential children a favor and run away.
  
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  How to "turn the tables" on still-in witness who pry about our status.

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so many of us have had (perhaps well-meaning) jws ask us questions about our inactivity, or lack of attendance at meetings.

  they may pry about why..... how is this for a simple, yet straight to the point response?

  to a sincere person, it may play on their mind and make them ask more questions.

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  Black Sheep

  Say what they want to hear, then when they are gone, get on with your life.
  
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  Still alive and kicking

  by Jourles in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  howdy everyone!

  just wanted to pop in and say hi to all the old timers and the new.

  i can't believe i've been a member of this site for 18 years now.

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  Black Sheep

  It's nice to pop in to see you're still top side. I've pretty much drifted away and don't spend much time here now.
  
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  Are you better off as a worldly person or a JW?

  by Jules Saturn in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was having a conversation with a relative who has been inactive for several decades (part of the ‘75 generation) and he argued that a person that is a born in is better off staying in the organization rather than someone like him who lived as a “worldly” person but then became a witness later in life.

  he argues that when you’re born in, all you know nothing outside of the organization, so you’re better off in than out, that’s why when born ins leave the org, they always come back.

  i agree that as a born in, your social circle is composed of witnesses but i do feel that even born ins would be happier outside of the org than being in.

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  Black Sheep

  Being ' inactive for several decades' is not the same thing as being 'out' and fully understanding that the religion is a cult and the effect that his time 'in' had on him.
  
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  Help Elders poking nose in

  by Formerbrother in

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  2. friends

  what can i do when elders want to poke their nose in?.

  they want to have another chat with me and my wife, but we dont want to, it just gets us down..

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  Black Sheep

  If you have reasons why you don't want to be DF/DA, (like you still want to be able to talk to your family and friends etc. without them running for the hills), lie when they ask the DF/DA type questions and tell them what you need them to hear to maintain some kind of OK status in the cong..

  They won't be honest with you if they get caught out, so treat them the same way and don't feel any guilt for any dishonesty.

  In my youth JWs called such dishonesty Theocratic Warfare and it still exists but without being named. If you deny yourself your version of 'Theocratic Warfare' while they try to protect the congregation and your JW family from you, you give them the upper hand and they will win.